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07 Mar 2010, 14:06

 Uncrop with uncropMKV does not work like inside multiAVCHD
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Hi,

I wanted to uncrop my video before I add it as a media in multiAVCHD, and did the same things in uncropMKV windows as in the transcode window in multiAVCHD, but the outcome is not the same.

I opened first my MPG file in uncropMKV, and the program opened it without errors. Is it recommended to only open MKV-files with uncropMKV, or?

So, just to be safe, I used GSDmux from Haali, to create a MKV from my mpg file, and loaded that MKV in uncropMKV.
I then choose "Uncrop -64", and "Resize 720x576" in uncropMKV, no other settings changed.

The only correct outcome was to uncrop inside multiAVCHD since it made a proper 16:9 video from my 4:3 with 16:9 picture-area. UncropMKV would crop top and bottom (I could see channel logo removed) but it also would squeeze the picture-area in height and add more black borders above and below.

In the console-window when used inside multiAVCHD, it said "x264 [info]: using SAR=16/11".
In use with only uncropMKV the console-window said "x264 [info]: using SAR=1/1", if that gives some clues.
Also, multiAVCHD said original video had aspect ratio 1.333, while uncropMKV said it had 1.25.

Below some info.

Bye,
Dolsen

Log info from uncropMKV window:
Code:
[11:24:48] Detected audio: ID#2:A_AC3 (48000Hz/2ch) Language: none
[11:24:48] Detected video: ID#1:V_MPEG-2:720x576 25.000fps (AR:1.25)
[11:27:21] Will keep track#2, Audio, AC3, none, 48000Hz 2ch
[11:27:21] File queued: Viktigper.mkv
[11:27:24] Re-encoding with x264 (Viktigper.mkv)...
[11:28:50] Will keep track#2, Audio
[11:28:51] mkvmerge: -o "E:\Videos 3\Viktigper-uncropped.mkv" -a 2 -D -S "E:\Videos 3\Viktigper.mkv" --default-duration 0:25.000fps -d 0 "E:\Videos 3\Viktigper.264"
[11:28:56] Done!
[11:28:56] Author: Dean Kasabow (dean@deanbg.com)


MediaInfo = Transcoded file from uncrop inside multiAVCHD:
Code:
General
Complete name                    : E:\Videos 3\Viktigper.[720x576-25.000].264
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
File size                        : 27.2 MiB

Video
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : High@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 2 frames
Bit rate                         : 3 462 Kbps
Width                            : 720 pixels
Height                           : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 16:9
Frame rate                       : 25.000 fps
Standard                         : PAL
Resolution                       : 8 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : MBAFF
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.334
Writing library                  : x264 core 78 r1309M 4d77de8
Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=1 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x112 / me=hex / subme=1 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=1 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=1 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=1 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=2 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / keyint=50 / keyint_min=8 / scenecut=40 / rc_lookahead=50 / rc=cbr / mbtree=1 / bitrate=3462 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.50 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=12000 / vbv_bufsize=12500 / ip_ratio=1.20 / aq=1:1.00


MediaInfo = GDSmux created MKV file:
Code:
General
Complete name                    : E:\Videos 3\Viktigper.mkv
Format                           : Matroska
File size                        : 31.8 MiB
Duration                         : 1mn 9s
Overall bit rate                 : 3 827 Kbps
Encoded date                     : UTC 2010-03-07 10:24:34
Writing application              : gdsmux
Writing library                  : Haali DirectShow Matroska Muxer 1.9.42.1

Video
ID                               : 1
Format                           : MPEG Video
Format version                   : Version 2
Format profile                   : Main@Main
Format settings, BVOP            : No
Format settings, Matrix          : Default
Codec ID                         : V_MPEG2
Codec ID/Info                    : MPEG 1 or 2 Video
Duration                         : 1mn 9s
Bit rate mode                    : Variable
Bit rate                         : 3 495 Kbps
Nominal bit rate                 : 9 400 Kbps
Width                            : 720 pixels
Height                           : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 4:3
Frame rate                       : 25.000 fps
Standard                         : PAL
Resolution                       : 8 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Interlaced
Scan order                       : Top Field First
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.337
Stream size                      : 29.1 MiB (91%)
Title                            : PID 480
Writing library                  : TMPGEnc MPEG Editor

Audio
ID                               : 2
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                         : A_AC3
Duration                         : 1mn 9s
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 256 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
Channel positions                : L R
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Stream size                      : 2.13 MiB (7%)
Title                            : PID 896




The MKV created with uncropMKV:
Code:
General
Complete name                    : E:\Videos 3\Viktigper-uncropped.mkv
Format                           : Matroska
File size                        : 24.3 MiB
Duration                         : 1mn 9s
Overall bit rate                 : 2 918 Kbps
Encoded date                     : UTC 2010-03-07 10:28:54
Writing application              : mkvmerge v2.5.3 ('Boogie') built on Mar  7 2009 15:00:41
Writing library                  : libebml v0.7.7 + libmatroska v0.8.1

Video
ID                               : 2
Format                           : AVC
Format/Info                      : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                   : High@L3.0
Format settings, CABAC           : Yes
Format settings, ReFrames        : 3 frames
Muxing mode                      : Container profile=Unknown@3.0
Codec ID                         : V_MPEG4/ISO/AVC
Duration                         : 1mn 9s
Bit rate                         : 2 604 Kbps
Nominal bit rate                 : 3 495 Kbps
Width                            : 720 pixels
Height                           : 576 pixels
Display aspect ratio             : 5:4
Frame rate                       : 25.000 fps
Standard                         : PAL
Resolution                       : 8 bits
Colorimetry                      : 4:2:0
Scan type                        : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)               : 0.251
Stream size                      : 21.7 MiB (89%)
Writing library                  : x264 core 78 r1309M 4d77de8
Encoding settings                : cabac=1 / ref=3 / deblock=1:0:0 / analyse=0x3:0x12 / me=dia / subme=2 / psy=1 / psy_rd=0.0:0.0 / mixed_ref=0 / me_range=16 / chroma_me=1 / trellis=0 / 8x8dct=1 / cqm=0 / deadzone=21,11 / chroma_qp_offset=0 / threads=1 / nr=0 / decimate=1 / mbaff=0 / constrained_intra=0 / bframes=3 / b_pyramid=0 / b_adapt=1 / b_bias=0 / direct=1 / wpredb=1 / keyint=25 / keyint_min=2 / scenecut=40 / rc_lookahead=26 / rc=cbr / mbtree=0 / bitrate=3495 / ratetol=1.0 / qcomp=0.50 / qpmin=10 / qpmax=51 / qpstep=4 / vbv_maxrate=12000 / vbv_bufsize=12500 / ip_ratio=1.10 / pb_ratio=1.10 / aq=1:1.00

Audio
ID                               : 1
Format                           : AC-3
Format/Info                      : Audio Coding 3
Codec ID                         : A_AC3
Duration                         : 1mn 9s
Bit rate mode                    : Constant
Bit rate                         : 256 Kbps
Channel(s)                       : 2 channels
Channel positions                : L R
Sampling rate                    : 48.0 KHz
Stream size                      : 2.13 MiB (9%)
Title                            : PID 896
Language                         : English


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07 Mar 2010, 15:15

 Re: Uncrop with uncropMKV does not work like inside multiAVCHD
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The transcode function in multiAVCHD has nothing to do with uncropMKV... It is completely different code although the GUI looks similar. I strongly suggest to use multiAVCHD's built-in transcode/uncrop functions. uncropMKV is a small stand-alone tool and can't do everything.

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07 Mar 2010, 15:20

 Re: Uncrop with uncropMKV does not work like inside multiAVCHD
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Hi again,

That's ok, no problems. Will do so.

Thanks, bye
Dolsen


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